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October 1st 08, 08:40 PM
A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
Mammoth Lake CA:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search

TheTruth[_3_]
October 1st 08, 08:47 PM
wrote:
> A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
> Mammoth Lake CA:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search

Bear Food
End of story

Mike
October 1st 08, 08:53 PM
"TheTruth" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>> A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
>> Mammoth Lake CA:
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search
>
> Bear Food
> End of story

"TheTruth" about John Allen Johnson:

http://jaycut.com/mix/22940/preview

~~NoMad~~
October 2nd 08, 12:44 PM
> wrote in message
...
>A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
> Mammoth Lake CA:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search

Wreckage may have been found:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431605,00.html

NM

Vaughn Simon
October 2nd 08, 04:24 PM
USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his. No remains
in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not sound survivable.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm

Vaughn

> wrote in message
...
>A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
> Mammoth Lake CA:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search

Mike
October 2nd 08, 04:40 PM
"Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
...
> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his. No
> remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not sound
> survivable.
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>
> Vaughn

Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH). We may
never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one thing was for
sure...

On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in the
mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.

Robert Moore
October 2nd 08, 05:15 PM
"Mike" wrote
> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in
> the mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.

Three weeks ago, my next-door 60 year old neighbor came very close
to death from a ruptured brain annurism suffered while humping
away on his nice looking 59 year old wife.

Now....that's the way I would like to go, but at 73 years of age, I
haven't been able to talk his wife into it yet. :(

Bob Moore

es330td
October 2nd 08, 06:00 PM
On Oct 2, 11:24*am, "Vaughn Simon" >
wrote:
> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his. *No remains
> in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not sound survivable.http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>
> Vaughn
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
> > Mammoth Lake CA:
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
a wing.

ObamaCultExposed
October 2nd 08, 06:16 PM
Mike wrote:
> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his.
>> No remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not
>> sound survivable.
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>>
>> Vaughn
>
> Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH). We
> may never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one thing was
> for sure...
>
> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in the
> mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.

Gang Butt Raped in prison by a big blue gum named Leroy will
be your ultimate fate Mike when they arrest all the FAA
managers for treason and gross incompetence so face it like
a man

Fossett=Bear Food

Mike
October 2nd 08, 06:35 PM
"ObamaCultExposed" > wrote in message
...
> Mike wrote:
>> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his. No
>>> remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not sound
>>> survivable.
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>>>
>>> Vaughn
>>
>> Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH). We
>> may never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one thing was for
>> sure...
>>
>> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in the
>> mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.
>
> Gang Butt Raped in prison by a big blue gum named Leroy will be your
> ultimate fate Mike when they arrest all the FAA managers for treason and
> gross incompetence so face it like a man

Awwww, poor JJ can't get over the fact that he was canned by the FAA.

You can spare us your homosexual fantasies, JJ. We've already established
your true nature.

> Fossett=Bear Food

JJ = loser

This is a real video of JJ. His name is John Allen Johnson and he lost his
FAA job due to drug use. Imagine how big of a loser you have to be to give
up a $50-75K job because you can't put down the crack pipe. Now he is
nothing more than a malcontent who spreads his racist filth on usenet.

http://jaycut.com/mix/22940/preview

The "Truth" hurts, doesn't it, JJ?

Gezellig
October 2nd 08, 08:03 PM
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:15:28 GMT, Robert Moore wrote:

> "Mike" wrote
>> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in
>> the mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.
>
> Three weeks ago, my next-door 60 year old neighbor came very close
> to death from a ruptured brain annurism suffered while humping
> away on his nice looking 59 year old wife.
>
> Now....that's the way I would like to go, but at 73 years of age, I
> haven't been able to talk his wife into it yet. :(
>
> Bob Moore

<cymbal crash>

Mxsmanic
October 2nd 08, 08:14 PM
es330td writes:

> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
> a wing.

What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like the
aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden incapacitation
of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
previously)? Suicide?

Mike
October 2nd 08, 08:18 PM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> es330td writes:
>
>> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>> a wing.
>
> What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
> understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like the
> aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden
> incapacitation
> of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
> previously)? Suicide?

Alien abduction.

Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
October 2nd 08, 08:22 PM
ObamaCultExposed > wrote in news:Rl7Fk.18373$kc.6534
@newsfe12.iad:

> Mike wrote:
>> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his.
>>> No remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not
>>> sound survivable.
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>>>
>>> Vaughn
>>
>> Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH). We
>> may never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one thing was
>> for sure...
>>
>> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in the
>> mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.
>
> Gang Butt Raped in prison by a big blue gum named Leroy will
> be your ultimate fate


Funny how your mind works.

Well, not so much funny as scary.


Bertie

Dave[_5_]
October 2nd 08, 08:44 PM
On Oct 2, 3:14*pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
> es330td writes:
> > That wreckage looks brutal. *It took me a while to figure out that
> > orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
> > a wing.
>
> What could be the cause? *He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
> understand the weather was clear. *And yet the news says it looks like the
> aircraft hit the mountain head on. *Mechanical failure? *Sudden incapacitation
> of the pilot? *Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
> previously)? *Suicide?

Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
weekend.

Dave

October 2nd 08, 08:55 PM
Dave > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 3:14Â*pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>> es330td writes:
>> > That wreckage looks brutal. Â*It took me a while to figure out that
>> > orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>> > a wing.
>>
>> What could be the cause? Â*He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
>> understand the weather was clear. Â*And yet the news says it looks like the
>> aircraft hit the mountain head on. Â*Mechanical failure? Â*Sudden incapacitation
>> of the pilot? Â*Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
>> previously)? Â*Suicide?
>
> Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
> fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
> surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
> weekend.

The Mammoth Lakes area is a huge wilderness area and you can go for
hours without seeing signs of humans; he didn't crash in the city.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Mike
October 2nd 08, 09:44 PM
"Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
...
> ObamaCultExposed > wrote in news:Rl7Fk.18373$kc.6534
> @newsfe12.iad:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as his.
>>>> No remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash does not
>>>> sound survivable.
>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>>>>
>>>> Vaughn
>>>
>>> Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH). We
>>> may never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one thing was
>>> for sure...
>>>
>>> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in the
>>> mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.
>>
>> Gang Butt Raped in prison by a big blue gum named Leroy will
>> be your ultimate fate
>
>
> Funny how your mind works.
>
> Well, not so much funny as scary.

Nah, it's still funny as hell.

Mike
October 2nd 08, 10:56 PM
> wrote in message
...
> Dave > wrote:
>> On Oct 2, 3:14 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>>> es330td writes:
>>> > That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>>> > orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>>> > a wing.
>>>
>>> What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
>>> understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like
>>> the
>>> aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden
>>> incapacitation
>>> of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
>>> previously)? Suicide?
>>
>> Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
>> fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
>> surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
>> weekend.
>
> The Mammoth Lakes area is a huge wilderness area and you can go for
> hours without seeing signs of humans; he didn't crash in the city.

From the map I saw, the crash site was west and a little to the north of
Mammoth mountain which would have been well out of site of the town.

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
October 2nd 08, 11:14 PM
Mxsmanic > wrote in
:

> es330td writes:
>
>> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>> a wing.
>
> What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from
> what I understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it
> looks like the aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure?
> Sudden incapacitation of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely,
> with all he had survived previously)? Suicide?

You're an idiot.


Bertie
>

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
October 2nd 08, 11:15 PM
"Mike" <nospam@ microsoft.com> wrote in
:

> "Bertie the Bunyip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ObamaCultExposed > wrote in news:Rl7Fk.18373$kc.6534
>> @newsfe12.iad:
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> "Vaughn Simon" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> USA Today is reporting that the wreckage has been identified as
>>>>> his. No remains in the wreckage, but the description of the crash
>>>>> does not sound survivable.
>>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-10-02-fossett_N.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Vaughn
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly there is an airport very near the crash site (KMMH).
>>>> We may never find out what the cause of the crash was, but one
>>>> thing was for sure...
>>>>
>>>> On Fossett's last flight he was flying a Decathlon on a nice day in
>>>> the mountains. I can think of worse ways to go.
>>>
>>> Gang Butt Raped in prison by a big blue gum named Leroy will
>>> be your ultimate fate
>>
>>
>> Funny how your mind works.
>>
>> Well, not so much funny as scary.
>
> Nah, it's still funny as hell.
>
>

Yeah, it is!

Bertie

C J Campbell[_1_]
October 3rd 08, 12:53 AM
On 2008-10-02 12:44:22 -0700, Dave > said:

> On Oct 2, 3:14*pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>> es330td writes:
>>> That wreckage looks brutal. *It took me a while to figure out that
>>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>>> a wing.
>>
>> What could be the cause? *He was presumably a good pilot, and from what
> I
>> understand the weather was clear. *And yet the news says it looks like
> the
>> aircraft hit the mountain head on. *Mechanical failure? *Sudden incap
> acitation
>> of the pilot? *Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
>> previously)? *Suicide?
>
> Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
> fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
> surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
> weekend.
>
> Dave

As already pointed out, the plane crashed in a remote, uninhabited
wilderness. The hiker who discovered the original evidence says he was
far off any trails.

What makes you think there was a fire? The photos of the pilot
certificate and other ID show no damage from flame or smoke. The
wreckage appears corroded, but not burned.

Believe it or not, planes do not always catch fire when they crash, any
more than automobiles explode into flames when the cops shoot out the
fuel tank or the megalomaniac's giant computer causes the volcano to
erupt when it is destroyed. Those things only happen in the movies.

Personally, I am distressed by the cavalier attitude many seem to be
taking here toward Fossett's death. I miss the old guy. He had a family
that loved him and cared about him -- still do. He was also admired by
many, including myself. He generally accomplished more in a month than
most of you clowns will ever manage to do with your whole lives. The
cheap shots and petty remarks are wholly uncalled for.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Mike
October 3rd 08, 01:18 AM
"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
news:2008100216532416807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
> On 2008-10-02 12:44:22 -0700, Dave > said:
>
>> On Oct 2, 3:14 pm, Mxsmanic > wrote:
>>> es330td writes:
>>>> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>>>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>>>> a wing.
>>>
>>> What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what
>> I
>>> understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like
>> the
>>> aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden incap
>> acitation
>>> of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
>>> previously)? Suicide?
>>
>> Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
>> fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
>> surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
>> weekend.
>>
>> Dave
>
> As already pointed out, the plane crashed in a remote, uninhabited
> wilderness. The hiker who discovered the original evidence says he was far
> off any trails.
>
> What makes you think there was a fire? The photos of the pilot certificate
> and other ID show no damage from flame or smoke. The wreckage appears
> corroded, but not burned.
>
> Believe it or not, planes do not always catch fire when they crash, any
> more than automobiles explode into flames when the cops shoot out the fuel
> tank or the megalomaniac's giant computer causes the volcano to erupt when
> it is destroyed. Those things only happen in the movies.
>
> Personally, I am distressed by the cavalier attitude many seem to be
> taking here toward Fossett's death. I miss the old guy. He had a family
> that loved him and cared about him -- still do. He was also admired by
> many, including myself. He generally accomplished more in a month than
> most of you clowns will ever manage to do with your whole lives. The cheap
> shots and petty remarks are wholly uncalled for.

Well said, but what you have to understand is all of the cheap shots are
coming from John Johnson using different sock puppets. He is a bitter
malcontent ex-FAA employee and admitted drug addict. He's never been a
pilot and never will be and is a perennial loser. As such he will never
understand the accomplishments of anyone like Steve Fossett.

george
October 3rd 08, 04:37 AM
On Oct 3, 12:18*pm, "Mike" <nospam@ microsoft.com> wrote:

> Well said, but what you have to understand is all of the cheap shots are
> coming from John Johnson using different sock puppets. He is a bitter
> malcontent ex-FAA employee and admitted drug addict. *He's never been a
> pilot and never will be and is a perennial loser. *As such he will never
> understand the accomplishments of anyone like Steve Fossett.

We had Steve Fossett out here a couple of years back.
He wanted to soar in the extreme heights of the South Island wave at
Omarama but owing to unseasonable wind changes was unable to.
As far as I know his sailplane is still down there.
A good bloke

Rick[_2_]
October 3rd 08, 05:46 AM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> es330td writes:
>
>> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>> a wing.
>
> What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
> understand the weather was clear.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431605,00.html
"I remember the day he crashed, there were large thunderheads over the peaks
around us," Mono County Undersheriff Ralph Obenberger said, gesturing to the
mountains flanking Mammoth Lakes.

And it doesn't sound like he was all that far off the beaten path:

"Morrow told FOX News he was hiking alone with his dog near his home in
Mammoth Lakes Monday afternoon when he came across what appeared to be three
identification cards bearing Fossett's name and issued by the Federal
Aviation Administration in Illinois."

Although it may be rather morbid speculation, I can agree with the "bear
food" comment - and I have the claw marks to show for it. Ok, not on my own
epidermis, but on a bunch of stuff a bear dragged into the woods after
breaking a window and pulling the stuff out of my car about 30 miles from
Mammoth Lakes. That was about ten years ago.

- Rick

RST Engineering
October 6th 08, 07:43 AM
I'd like to buy that license for a lot of money. Most of us have
certificates. How Fossett got a license is beyone me.

Stupid ******* that posted.

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


> wrote in message
...
>A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
> Mammoth Lake CA:
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search

azure
October 6th 08, 09:35 PM
On Oct 6, 7:43*pm, "RST Engineering" > wrote:
> I'd like to buy that license for a lot of money. *Most of us have
> certificates. *HowFossettgot a license is beyone me.
>
> Stupid ******* that posted.
>
> --
> "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
> without accepting it."
> * * * * --Aristotle
>
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> >A hiker found SteveFossett'spilot license and other items near
> > Mammoth Lake CA:
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/ap_on_re_us/fossett_search- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
which the whole story will have unfolded there.

Jose Jimenez
October 6th 08, 09:42 PM
azure wrote:

> ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
> the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
> Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
> person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
> which the whole story will have unfolded there.

I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.

TheTruth[_3_]
October 6th 08, 09:47 PM
José Jiménez wrote:
> azure wrote:
>
>> ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
>> the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
>> Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
>> person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
>> which the whole story will have unfolded there.
>
> I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.

BEAR FOOD

Tech Support
October 7th 08, 02:24 AM
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:47:00 -0400, TheTruth >
wrote:

>José Jiménez wrote:
>> azure wrote:
>>
>>> ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
>>> the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
>>> Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
>>> person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
>>> which the whole story will have unfolded there.
>>
>> I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.
>
>BEAR FOOD
**************************************

Yep!

Big John

Tech Support
October 7th 08, 02:33 AM
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:12 +0200, Mxsmanic >
wrote:

>es330td writes:
>
>> That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
>> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
>> a wing.
>
>What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
>understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like the
>aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden incapacitation
>of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
>previously)? Suicide?
************************************************** ***************

I lost a couple of good FACs in VN flying in mountains with a strong
wind. Neither were mountain qualified Pilots.

My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts in strong wind
in mountains.

Will have to see what NTSB comes up with for final analysis.

Big John

george
October 7th 08, 04:33 AM
On Oct 7, 2:33 pm, Tech Support <> wrote:

> I lost a couple of good FACs in VN flying in mountains with a strong
> wind. Neither were mountain qualified Pilots.
>
> My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts in strong wind
> in mountains.
>
> Will have to see what NTSB comes up with for final analysis.

Even the most experienced mountain pilot can encounter conditions that
are beyond his skill and the aircrafts performance.

Rotor would be my guess

Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
October 7th 08, 03:42 PM
george > wrote in news:2521c7e7-a163-4f56-9f6a-
:

> On Oct 7, 2:33 pm, Tech Support <> wrote:
>
>> I lost a couple of good FACs in VN flying in mountains with a strong
>> wind. Neither were mountain qualified Pilots.
>>
>> My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts in strong wind
>> in mountains.
>>
>> Will have to see what NTSB comes up with for final analysis.
>
> Even the most experienced mountain pilot can encounter conditions that
> are beyond his skill and the aircrafts performance.
>
> Rotor would be my guess
>

CB was mentioned...


Bertie

JG
October 11th 08, 06:46 PM
On Oct 6, 8:33*pm, Tech Support <> wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:12 +0200, Mxsmanic >
> wrote:
>
> >es330td writes:
>
> >> That wreckage looks brutal. *It took me a while to figure out that
> >> orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
> >> a wing.
>
> >What could be the cause? *He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
> >understand the weather was clear. *And yet the news says it looks like the
> >aircraft hit the mountain head on. *Mechanical failure? *Sudden incapacitation
> >of the pilot? *Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
> >previously)? *Suicide?
>
> ************************************************** ***************
>
> I lost a couple of good FACs in VN flying in mountains with a strong
> wind. Neither were mountain qualified Pilots.
>
> My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts in strong wind
> in mountains.
>
> Will have to see what NTSB comes up with for final analysis.
>
> Big John

No bones recovered... gotta think he bailed out and went off to the
islands to enjoy...JG

October 13th 08, 06:17 PM
On Oct 11, 11:46 am, JG > wrote:

> No bones recovered... gotta think he bailed out and went off to the
> islands to enjoy...JG

Animals that die in the bush are completely used up by other
animals. In the years I have spent in the bush, I have encountered
very few bones of any sort. My father found the rotting carcass of a
bear that someone had shot from across a river without the means of
retrieving it (one of the stupidities of some hunters) and when he and
I visited the site a year later there was no trace of it. No hair, no
bones, nothing. Other animals tear it apart and drag it all away. When
airplanes go missing in the mountains here and are eventually found
years later, the bodies are usually gone but evidence in the form of
belt buckles, watches and rings are often found. Only if the fuselage
is closed up tight and scavenger-proof might there be more than that.

Dan

Morgans[_2_]
October 13th 08, 09:52 PM
> wrote

> Only if the fuselage
> is closed up tight and scavenger-proof might there be more than that.

Yep. Only if the plane is military, and has crew protection in the form of
an armor bathtub, with bullet proof windows, will it be truly bear proof.

A determined bear can go right through a car's windshield, or through the
sheet metal roof, trunk lid, or any other place they choose, if they are
hungry enough.

Fossett enjoyed the limelight, and was always going from adventure to the
next adventure, to stay in the limelight.

He would be the last person to decide to disappear to seclusion. It just
was not his style.
--
Jim in NC

Mike Isaksen
October 15th 08, 12:43 AM
"JG" wrote ...
> My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts
> in strong wind in mountains.

Was he operating on the windward side of the ridge? Locals reported some
clouds over the ridges.

My WAG:
He gets into hard updraft, cuts power, noses down,
ASI increasing, still climbing, noses over more,
VSI still positive, ...oops now he's in IMC,
......the ASI is in the upper yellow, ...damn this cloud,
......Oh Sh*t .... the VSI just swung around to -2K,
......BANG!

Not the first, ... not the last.

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